So a friend of mine (Conrad) and I were the first "mavericks" when CNN decided to do a live interactive conversation between 2 people while live tv was going. This was while the G20 Summit, in addition to the riot process. Conrad and I come from 2 different generations, however i found it interesting how our ideas seem to converge on the same track.
only in america!
Check out the interesting thread:
[11:10:45 AM] *** CNN Skype1 added Conrad Hake ***
[11:10:53 AM] CNN Skype1: hey conrad- see us now?
[11:11:13 AM] Conrad Hake: I see you.
[11:11:24 AM] CNN Skype1: great- and carl? you see me & conrad?
[11:12:46 AM] Conrad Hake: I don’t see anything from Carl
[11:13:19 AM] CNN Skype1: me neither, i think he’s on the phone w/a client
[11:14:26 AM] Conrad Hake: I just dm’ed him via Twitter. He had sent me a message.
[11:15:16 AM] CFJr: sup Conrad!
[11:15:37 AM] Conrad Hake: Ready, dude? Nice pic, by the way. How’d you get it up there?
[11:15:54 AM] CFJr: its my myspace photo..it just linked it in
[11:16:02 AM] CFJr: go to your profile
[11:16:12 AM] CFJr: or click the box, it should pop open
[11:16:37 AM] Conrad Hake: Oh. I don’t have a MySpace acct.
[11:17:41 AM] CFJr: its ok, you can upload a pic that you have on ur desktop
[11:18:07 AM] Conrad Hake: I already have a pic in the profile. It just isn’t showing, I guess.
[11:19:13 AM] CFJr: hmm.. click on the box then scroll over to the open dialog box and click ur photo
[11:21:51 AM] Conrad Hake: I did. Oh, well. Bigger fish to fry, I suppose. do you see my pic or a big "?"
[11:22:08 AM] CFJr: a big "?"
[11:22:22 AM] CFJr: hold on lemme try to do the process again
[11:22:46 AM] Conrad Hake: On the left, I see my photo.
[11:22:54 AM] CFJr: ok, click the photo/"?" box on the right
[11:22:58 AM] CFJr: bottom right
[11:24:35 AM] Conrad Hake: Oh, this is funny. All that I’ve managed to do is turn you into a ? also! LOL
[11:25:01 AM] CFJr: dude, what are you doing? LOL
[11:25:29 AM] Conrad Hake: Before I’m done, they’ll run us out on a rail!! Or, at least me…
[11:25:31 AM] CFJr: did you click the box? the openingn dialog box at the top click "browse"
[11:26:13 AM] Conrad Hake: The box that is one of three at the top? My box?
[11:26:52 AM] Conrad Hake: The one on the left already shows my pic.
[11:27:01 AM] CFJr: in this chat box… click the box to the right that your photo is suppose to be in
[11:27:28 AM] Conrad Hake: Double-click? Click does nothing.
[11:28:05 AM] CFJr: ok… what version of skype do you have?
[11:28:40 AM] Conrad Hake: Newest. 4.0.0….
[11:29:09 AM] CFJr: ok go up on the main page
[11:29:17 AM] CFJr: click tool then options
[11:30:23 AM] Conrad Hake: OK. which option to change?
[11:30:42 AM] CFJr: general settings
[11:30:47 AM] CFJr: change ur picture
[11:31:31 AM] Conrad Hake: I did.
[11:32:27 AM] Conrad Hake: I think we are just warming up our fingers until we have something to comment on. 
[11:32:34 AM] CFJr: lol
[11:33:20 AM] Conrad Hake: If they don’t treat us well, it’s easy to get out. All we have to do is cuss.
[11:33:35 AM] CFJr: hahahaha, i saw them on video.. they’re pretty cool
[11:33:57 AM] CFJr: we’re being mavericks
[11:34:17 AM] Conrad Hake: Yeah, you, me and McCain.
[11:34:33 AM] Conrad Hake: Bein’ all mavericky!
[11:34:38 AM] CFJr: hahahahahaha
[11:35:11 AM] Conrad Hake: I told some people we were going to do this and they thought it was an April Fools joke.
[11:35:54 AM] CFJr: everyone i told thought the same
[11:36:13 AM] Conrad Hake: They have no idea of just how classy we really are!
[11:36:50 AM] CFJr: i wanted to talk about legalization of MJ… I had dreams about this
[11:37:20 AM] Conrad Hake: I researched that, too! Oh well, next week.
[11:37:33 AM] CFJr: as long as we do well today
[11:37:41 AM] Conrad Hake: And don’t cuss…
[11:37:46 AM] CFJr: of course
[11:38:10 AM] Conrad Hake: Did you put any boilerplate text in a text file to paste in?
[11:38:38 AM] CFJr: LOL!! no, but that is a good idea
[11:38:48 AM] Conrad Hake: I thought about it, but didn’t.
[11:39:14 AM] CFJr: they picked to 2 perfect people for such a discussion
[11:39:30 AM] Conrad Hake: Yeah. You need people who could party together.
[11:39:41 AM] CFJr: hahahahaha, right
[11:39:54 AM] Conrad Hake: brb, Carl.
[11:41:57 AM] Conrad Hake: Carl, how do you do this? I have a TV tuner in the computer & a big monitor. I just put the stuff side-by-side and go.
[11:42:28 AM] CFJr: i have my desktop and laptop running
[11:42:59 AM] Conrad Hake: Which one gets the TV?
[11:43:16 AM] CFJr: laptop
[11:43:23 AM] Conrad Hake: Streaming?
[11:43:33 AM] CFJr: yep
[11:43:41 AM] Conrad Hake: What address?
[11:44:03 AM] CFJr: ok, i think im talking about something totally different
[11:44:07 AM] CFJr: are you asking me about the news?
[11:44:24 AM] CFJr: ..and im sober
[11:44:30 AM] Conrad Hake: Yes, the news. I have some people without cable who would like to watch.
[11:44:47 AM] Conrad Hake: I’m all jacked up on caffeine right now!
[11:45:46 AM] CFJr: http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1
[11:48:06 AM] Conrad Hake: My daughter just cut her boyfriend’s hair in the garage. He needs to just shave his head and start over! OMG
[11:49:06 AM] Conrad Hake: Thanks for the link.
[11:52:40 AM] CFJr: LOL!!!
[11:55:06 AM] Conrad Hake: Rick just talked us up!
[11:55:17 AM] CFJr: lol, i saw..
[11:55:53 AM] Conrad Hake: I loved his "What a day to do it." Hope we’re good, lol.
[11:56:09 AM] CFJr: im watching protesting videos on youtube
[11:56:14 AM] CFJr: this ish is crazy
[11:58:33 AM] CFJr: we lost 742K jobs this past month?
[11:58:46 AM] Conrad Hake: Say what??
[11:58:52 AM] CFJr: right
[11:59:00 AM] Conrad Hake: That is way more than I expected at this point.
[11:59:37 AM] CFJr: oh no, the job market is always the last to recover in economics
[11:59:44 AM] CFJr: it will get worse
[11:59:54 AM] Conrad Hake: True. And we haven’t come close to the bottom
[12:00:06 PM] CFJr: i thnk we’re getting there by the end of the year
[12:00:21 PM] Conrad Hake: We can only hope. this is such unknown territory.
[12:00:34 PM] CFJr: we should really focus on going green
[12:00:43 PM] CFJr: it could be our much needed new industry
[12:00:54 PM] Conrad Hake: CA is trying to. Schwarzenegger is getting some flak.
[12:01:04 PM] CFJr: i think more importantly we have to change the corporate policy
[12:01:18 PM] Conrad Hake: Yes. The whole corporate culture.
[12:01:19 PM] CFJr: you can’t pay workers min wage, and the exec board is making millions
[12:01:52 PM] Conrad Hake: Japan has - or at least had - a much better ratio between main workers and CEOs.
[12:01:58 PM] CFJr: agreed
[12:02:19 PM] CFJr: im not condoning breaking windows etc… but why don’t we march anymore?
[12:02:23 PM] Conrad Hake: Protest is such a spectrum phenomenon.
[12:02:26 PM] CFJr: we write emails and tweets
[12:02:51 PM] Conrad Hake: I marched a lot in the 60’s/70’s.
[12:03:20 PM] CFJr: so did my parent’s and grandparent’s.. for my right to a balanced public school education
[12:03:40 PM] CFJr: maybe its because we’ve been made to feel helpless…as if our voice means nothing
[12:04:02 PM] CFJr: i think we our now seeing how enraged the rest of the world is
[12:04:13 PM] Conrad Hake: I am glad they did. I was teaching not far from the school where Brown v Board of Education originated.
[12:04:27 PM] CFJr: i couldn’t agree more
[12:04:43 PM] Conrad Hake: The world has built up a lot of resentment over the past 8 years.
[12:04:57 PM] CFJr: but we should’ve been protesting (ALL OF US) when we realized that Iraq had no WMD’s
[12:05:11 PM] CFJr: look what our inaction has caused?
[12:05:12 PM] Conrad Hake: Yes! We should have!
[12:05:52 PM] Conrad Hake: And, you know what, some protest is really effective. Some is counterproductive. But, people need to express.
[12:05:59 PM] CFJr: im glad the protesters are not all being potrayed as radicals..
[12:06:17 PM] Conrad Hake: Rick is much better about his coverage of protest.
[12:06:23 PM] CFJr: I think the auto workers blood is boiling now
[12:06:37 PM] CFJr: especially because they had to concede so much…and the bank employees got bonuses
[12:06:43 PM] CFJr: I couldn’t imagine, if it were me
[12:06:56 PM] Conrad Hake: Yes. I think we may see a lot of protests in Michigan, depending upon how this all goes.
[12:07:11 PM] Conrad Hake: Unemployed people in general are angry people.
[12:07:22 PM] CFJr: unemployed and duped…for wall st
[12:07:47 PM] Conrad Hake: Wall street better wake up to how important Americans in general are to them.
[12:08:14 PM] Conrad Hake: I’m glad we didn’t privatize SS.
[12:08:16 PM] CFJr: they had better
[12:08:22 PM] CFJr: OMG i couldn’t imagine…
[12:08:54 PM] CFJr: I don’t think its is portrayed how bad people are really struggling here in America
[12:09:20 PM] Conrad Hake: It is so important that we get back on diplomacy, arms control and working together around the world, too.
[12:09:22 PM] CFJr: and the system (govt) doesn’t seem to helping those that need it the most
[12:09:32 PM] CFJr: we have some catching up to do
[12:09:51 PM] Conrad Hake: We have to look at values. This election gives us a chance.
[12:09:52 PM] CFJr: but we also have to get back to our own civil duties.. town hall meetings, talking with our represenatives
[12:10:10 PM] Conrad Hake: Yes. Local is where the best originates from.
[12:10:22 PM] CFJr: we have to make sure people are more concerned with who’s being voted as their senator..than voting for their favorite american idol
[12:10:29 PM] CFJr: (nothign against AI)
[12:11:02 PM] Conrad Hake: You are right about priorities. Strong citizens are the source of a strong nation.
[12:11:08 PM] CFJr: agreed
[12:11:12 PM] CFJr: China needs us, and we need them
[12:11:23 PM] Conrad Hake: Yes.
[12:11:29 PM] CFJr: without us consuming the products they make..they fail just as well
[12:11:54 PM] Conrad Hake: It really is a global economy - and culture - now.
[12:12:05 PM] CFJr: also, we have to fix rising healthcare costs…and make it conducive to invest back in Americans
[12:12:14 PM] Conrad Hake: I have friends tuned into this in India.
[12:13:11 PM] CFJr: America is extremely expensive to do business in
[12:13:36 PM] CFJr: and we pay the most in corp. taxes in the world
[12:13:48 PM] Conrad Hake: Yes. Healthcare is really dinging our family. by the time we put the deductible at a level where we can afford the premium, we only have it for catastrophic coverage.
[12:14:10 PM] CFJr: its not like we (the taxpayer) don’t pay for healthcare for everyone now
[12:14:12 PM] Conrad Hake: What do you think we can do about the tax situation?
[12:14:33 PM] CFJr: we have to lower the corp. tax incentivising companies to come back and invest in Americans
[12:14:49 PM] Conrad Hake: If we don’t pay for it in taxes, we cover costs when the emergency room is main dr.
[12:14:52 PM] CFJr: we have to fix our healthcare system (an online system)
[12:15:26 PM] Conrad Hake: We do need to make sure that we have economic incentives in our system.
[12:15:30 PM] CFJr: could you imagine if the police department was ran like a hospital?
[12:15:43 PM] Conrad Hake: Yeah, that is scary.
[12:16:00 PM] CFJr: what happends a dept didn’t have the money to answer a crime? because its not in their budget
[12:16:11 PM] CFJr: or the fire dept
[12:16:28 PM] Conrad Hake: Police, fire - they do need tax funds. You wouldn’t privitize them would you?
[12:16:36 PM] CFJr: what if the Chief of Police was the CEO of the company making millions
[12:16:38 PM] CFJr: NO!
[12:16:45 PM] CFJr: no way… its for the public
[12:17:02 PM] CFJr: and it does us well to have a country of healthy working people
[12:17:07 PM] Conrad Hake: Exactly. Some people don’t realize that there are essential uses of public funds.
[12:17:14 PM] CFJr: healthcare costs is the #1 reason for bankruptcy
[12:17:33 PM] CFJr: its costs 500K for open heart surgery
[12:17:46 PM] Conrad Hake: Yes. No one is doing very well in terms of health care right now.
[12:17:48 PM] CFJr: so the working class of people are not able to get "prevenative" health
[12:18:01 PM] CFJr: to keep them working and paying taxes into the system
[12:18:07 PM] Conrad Hake: We are sliding behind much of the rest of the world in infant mortality, etc.
[12:18:17 PM] CFJr: Cuba is what.. #3?
[12:18:51 PM] Conrad Hake: Cuba and our relationship with its society is very interesting. We have a lot that we should get over and move into the present.
[12:18:59 PM] CFJr: couldn’t agree more
[12:19:22 PM] CFJr: the police in europe are a lot more patient that our trigger happy cops
[12:19:36 PM] CFJr: there is no way Miami would be able to handle this
[12:19:42 PM] Conrad Hake: I am leary of everyone who immediately wheels out socialism as an accusation.
[12:19:44 PM] CFJr: without it turning extremely violent
[12:19:54 PM] CFJr: agreed
[12:20:15 PM] Conrad Hake: The police in Europe seem more in touch with the people and less trigger-happy. At least, the English police.
[12:20:41 PM] CFJr: whose at fault? BUSH
[12:20:45 PM] CFJr: simple..move on
[12:20:59 PM] Conrad Hake: Are your police locally from the neighborhoods they serve?
[12:21:10 PM] CFJr: not in los angeles, or in NYC
[12:21:13 PM] CFJr: no
[12:21:27 PM] Conrad Hake: Not in Bay Area either.
[12:21:32 PM] CFJr: it wouldn’t be a bad idea… but they wouldn’t dare live in the places they patrol
[12:21:36 PM] CFJr: which i think is sad..
[12:21:58 PM] Conrad Hake: I agree. I don’t have an easy solution. I just notice it.
[12:22:22 PM] Conrad Hake: Wall st. doesn’t live in the areas they serve, either.
[12:22:33 PM] CFJr: perhaps they should have more community events so people learn that their local police are neighbors just like them
[12:22:48 PM] Conrad Hake: I like that idea.
[12:22:59 PM] CFJr: to me its simple..
[12:23:12 PM] CFJr: i mean honestly, how often do you see a cop doing something for your community?
[12:23:23 PM] Conrad Hake: Simple and elegant solutions really require insight.
[12:23:36 PM] CFJr: i think they just require common sense
[12:23:47 PM] Conrad Hake: Same thing in some ways.
[12:24:02 PM] CFJr: and if Capitol Hill can’t see that…maybe its time we replace them all
[12:24:31 PM] Conrad Hake: We need to be willing to replace OUR congressmen. We usually blame it on OTHERS.
[12:24:40 PM] CFJr: what would happen if you or me owed 7K in back taxes?
[12:25:05 PM] Conrad Hake: You know what would happen. We’d be typing in adjoinging cells if lucky!
[12:25:18 PM] CFJr: sending notes under the doors
[12:25:29 PM] Conrad Hake: Tying them to mice!
[12:25:36 PM] CFJr: mr. jingles
[12:25:48 PM] CFJr: (Green Mile)
[12:25:48 PM] Conrad Hake: 
[12:25:50 PM] CFJr: LOL!!
[12:26:27 PM] CFJr: will they at least give Obama the benefit of the doubt?
[12:26:33 PM] CFJr: we put him in office…
[12:26:39 PM] CFJr: that’s what the people want
[12:26:51 PM] Conrad Hake: I like the effort so far. I really do.
[12:27:05 PM] Conrad Hake: I’m not asking for a 400 yard drive down the middle each swing.
[12:27:17 PM] CFJr: he’s done more in the couple of weeks, than Bush did his whole term
[12:27:29 PM] CFJr: remember when he stayed down at Camp David for like a month?
[12:27:43 PM] Conrad Hake: I know. my classmates in the heartland don’t want to hear it.
[12:27:53 PM] CFJr: its sad
[12:28:19 PM] CFJr: wow they are fired up in London
[12:28:22 PM] Conrad Hake: Wonder when Rick is going to turn to us?
[12:28:29 PM] CFJr: I dunno..
[12:28:49 PM] Conrad Hake: I’m old. My fingers will wear out!!!
[12:29:02 PM] CFJr: Im with the people in London
[12:29:09 PM] Conrad Hake: I am, too.
[12:29:22 PM] CFJr: maybe if we had broke a window or 2 we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in right now (not trying to incite a riot)
[12:29:29 PM] Conrad Hake: They need to stay focused very clearly, though.
[12:29:56 PM] CFJr: perhaps if AIG had gotten ruffled up a little… they wouldn’t have had the gall to take a bonus on top of the bailout
[12:30:00 PM] Conrad Hake: I saw the broken windows in Oakland as a distraction from the cause there. The merchants weren’t the problem.
[12:30:19 PM] Conrad Hake: But, I know what you mean that you must be heard.
[12:30:26 PM] CFJr: same as LA riots
[12:30:32 PM] Conrad Hake: This is being heard.
[12:30:36 PM] CFJr: now if they did it on Wall St.. a whole other story
[12:30:50 PM] CFJr: i don’t see them as radicals… people are fired up
[12:30:56 PM] CFJr: and they can’t take it anymore
[12:30:58 PM] Conrad Hake: Can you imagine this on Wall st.???
[12:31:15 PM] Conrad Hake: No, the common people are the ones feeling this way now.
[12:31:18 PM] CFJr: i thought we would’ve had it when we found out how much their bonuses were
[12:31:39 PM] CFJr: if we are non-violent "we will win"???
[12:31:46 PM] Conrad Hake: The deeper the objections go in the society, the more compelling actions become.
[12:32:07 PM] CFJr: agreed, this is a mess…I think we should be just as fired up
[12:32:15 PM] CFJr: look at what happened to us?
[12:32:32 PM] CFJr: we ended up spending 1 trillion dollars on a country that is still in shambles
[12:32:35 PM] Conrad Hake: Non-violent protest has been a hot issue since b4 Gandhi and King.
[12:32:54 PM] Conrad Hake: I like your passion. Gives me hope.
[12:32:57 PM] CFJr: I equate it to a kid throwing a temper tantrum..sometimes you just have to act out
[12:33:04 PM] Conrad Hake: Have you ever run for an office?
[12:33:05 PM] CFJr: to be heard
[12:33:10 PM] CFJr: no.. im 27
[12:33:27 PM] CFJr: my father was military and i traveled all over the world
[12:33:39 PM] Conrad Hake: I ran for school board last fall. Politics and being heard from that vantage point is just awful.
[12:33:59 PM] CFJr: i can’t imagine… i did think about law school
[12:34:26 PM] Conrad Hake: Our age range really helps us bracket this conversation. I am 59. Viet Nam was my era. And we really protested!!!
[12:34:51 PM] Conrad Hake: My Dad was so with us in that.
[12:35:25 PM] Conrad Hake: Some of the shared fire we have can make a difference.
[12:35:29 PM] CFJr: honestly what would America look like if we’d invested 1 trillion in education and green technology?
[12:35:42 PM] Conrad Hake: It would look great!!
[12:35:43 PM] CFJr: we have to feel like our voices are important
[12:35:56 PM] CFJr: and we haven’t felt like that for some time
[12:36:07 PM] CFJr: I would go as far to say possibly the early 70’s
[12:36:18 PM] Conrad Hake: We need to lead the world to green. Instead, we have been a green rogue. Refusing Kyoto!!
[12:36:22 PM] CFJr: when people cared about making a change
[12:36:28 PM] CFJr: RIGHT!
[12:36:38 PM] Conrad Hake: The early 70’s are exactly it!
[12:36:56 PM] CFJr: we’re a spoiled bunch (my generation)
[12:37:03 PM] Conrad Hake: I couldn’t believe we lost that thread.
[12:37:04 PM] CFJr: we never had to work for anything
[12:37:33 PM] CFJr: i think what happened the parents of the 70’s gave their children everything they didn’t have… and now look at us
[12:37:43 PM] Conrad Hake: The draft help fire us up. Honestly, I wonder if that is the reason it is all "volunteer" now.
[12:37:55 PM] CFJr: possibly.. i haven’t thought of that
[12:38:37 PM] Conrad Hake: We actually faced a draft lottery. There is nothing like sitting in front of a TV seeing if they will draw your birthdate and send you to war.
[12:39:16 PM] CFJr: it would put a real face on the war..if mom and pops from the suburbs realized their kid was going off to war instead of college
[12:39:27 PM] Conrad Hake: Exactly!!
[12:40:18 PM] CFJr: we need to make sure our senators etc. know that the lobbying party is over
[12:40:20 PM] Conrad Hake: College protests would escalate again, too!
[12:40:23 PM] CFJr: right
[12:40:36 PM] CFJr: everyone is watching and paying attention, and we will start holding them ALL accountable
[12:40:43 PM] Conrad Hake: College kids, mobilized, are a real force!
[12:41:16 PM] CFJr: not only college kids…what about kids that wanted to marry early, buy a home, and raise kids?
[12:41:30 PM] Conrad Hake: Green has meant money to this point. It needs to mean a way of life.
[12:41:32 PM] CFJr: its impossible
[12:41:52 PM] CFJr: couldn’t agree with you more.. we have to get a greener economy
[12:42:08 PM] CFJr: could you imagine if G20 was in New York?
[12:42:08 PM] Conrad Hake: Why does the person think we can’t protest here?
[12:42:23 PM] Conrad Hake: We have much to march for.
[12:42:42 PM] CFJr: we can. we just don’t
[12:43:05 PM] Conrad Hake: I know. It needs to start back up!
[12:43:27 PM] CFJr: I gotta agree, i feel the only reason Bush got away with it all…. was because we let him
[12:43:47 PM] Conrad Hake: Yes. We allowed our society to be bought off cheap.
[12:43:48 PM] CFJr: in addition to Clinton repealing the Glass-Steagall act
[12:44:05 PM] CFJr: not everyone is violently protesting, and im glad Rick is pointing that out
[12:44:43 PM] Conrad Hake: Rick is bringing protest itself back into focus as a proper topic of news. Which it is.
[12:45:01 PM] Conrad Hake: Protest is what the American revolution was based on.
[12:45:07 PM] CFJr: its is an effective was for citizens to get their point accross
[12:45:31 PM] Conrad Hake: It is. This is, too. We need to voice on many, many fronts.
[12:45:44 PM] CFJr: we need to stand back up and let the world know that we Americans aren’t taking this standing down either
[12:46:05 PM] CFJr: we understand their frustrations, and share their feelings
[12:46:08 PM] Conrad Hake: When politicians know that we are upset, they respond. If we stay upset and passionate, the actually start changing things.
[12:46:30 PM] CFJr: or maybe move aside, and let someone come in that can do the job we’re asking
[12:46:37 PM] CFJr: (Obama)
[12:46:44 PM] Conrad Hake: We have given weak lip service to world leadership for awhile. It is deriliction of duty.
[12:47:13 PM] Conrad Hake: Do you see passion developing in your generation?
[12:47:35 PM] CFJr: I beginning to see it now, that we felt our voices were heard when electing Obama
[12:48:04 PM] CFJr: it also took time for us to realize how good we have it, and what we have done with our opportunities in this nation
[12:48:18 PM] CFJr: i think Obama represents what we can do, if we work hard… anything is possible
[12:48:23 PM] Conrad Hake: My generation was feeling a real disconnect with Bush. Not all of us, obviously. But a LOT of us.
[12:48:43 PM] CFJr: I couldn’t relate to him on anything
[12:48:53 PM] Conrad Hake: Neither could I.
[12:49:06 PM] CFJr: he’s not smart, not very talented in anything…he reminds me of the coach’s son whose put on the team only because
[12:49:29 PM] Conrad Hake: People voted for what they thought were family values, etc., and got corporate returns.
[12:49:33 PM] CFJr: and the coach keeps telling him he’s really good..so he actually thinks so
[12:49:44 PM] Conrad Hake: I know.
[12:50:00 PM] Conrad Hake: I have wanted an Obama for quite a while.
[12:50:08 PM] CFJr: while the rest of the crowd (the world) is laughing at the whole team for having him on board
[12:50:31 PM] Conrad Hake: The rest of the world is getting back on board with us, I think.
[12:50:53 PM] Conrad Hake: I couldn’t believe that many people here actually thought that Europe liking us was a bad thing!
[12:50:55 PM] CFJr: i think so too… could you imagine McCain and Palin working on these issues?
[12:51:00 PM] CFJr: right
[12:51:06 PM] Conrad Hake: Unfortunately, I could.
[12:51:38 PM] CFJr: what mess would we be in, if we had Palin heading the senate
[12:51:52 PM] Conrad Hake: Don’t even go there!
[12:52:03 PM] CFJr: OMG the GOP budget…was a complete joke
[12:52:09 PM] Conrad Hake: The whole executive had a strange view of their role.
[12:52:23 PM] CFJr: agreed
[12:52:42 PM] CFJr: the GOP wants to cut trillions of tax dollars.. again
[12:52:49 PM] Conrad Hake: Budgets grow out of priorities. I hated the priorities.
[12:52:51 PM] CFJr: and repeal the stimulus package
[12:53:02 PM] CFJr: can we just make sure we don’t vote them back?
[12:53:03 PM] Conrad Hake: Trickle down is a failed idea.
[12:53:18 PM] CFJr: when we don’t take care of those that cannot take care of themselves
[12:53:22 PM] CFJr: its a failure
[12:53:44 PM] CFJr: Ted Stevens, Scooter Libby… did we really expect him to be convicted?
[12:53:50 PM] CFJr: same old boys club
[12:54:27 PM] Conrad Hake: Citizens can change the old boys club. We need to work on so many fronts. the anger needs to become good action.
[12:54:53 PM] CFJr: to me it Obama just showed us, who we need to make sure we don’t vote for again in 2 years
[12:55:05 PM] CFJr: the people that were able to move with the changes, we keep..others we ditch
[12:55:09 PM] CFJr: that’s a democracy
[12:55:10 PM] Conrad Hake: The politicians don’t REALLY know how to play the situation now. This is the time to push change.
[12:55:44 PM] CFJr: they don’t know how to play, because we have the internet and we can look up the truth
[12:55:50 PM] CFJr: and not just take what their saying as fact
[12:55:54 PM] Conrad Hake: Politicians try to come up with ideas and sell them to us. We need to generate our own ideas for awhile.
[12:56:27 PM] Conrad Hake: The are looking at the Stevens debacle right now.
[12:56:33 PM] Conrad Hake: It is really strange.
[12:56:42 PM] CFJr: this is a mess, the prosecution was shady apparently
[12:56:59 PM] Conrad Hake: That’s what I heard. Why???
[12:57:23 PM] CFJr: soemthing about, they didn’t give all the evidence over? something to that extent
[12:57:40 PM] Conrad Hake: Right. At that level, I expect better.
[12:57:53 PM] Conrad Hake: Don’t make the dumb mistakes.
[12:58:05 PM] Conrad Hake: …or the corrupt ones.
[12:58:39 PM] CFJr: please they were never gonna convict him anyways..
[12:58:39 PM] Conrad Hake: The legal system is a whole other issue!
[12:58:44 PM] CFJr: right
[12:58:55 PM] Conrad Hake: The rich are never executed in America!
[12:59:00 PM] CFJr: never
[12:59:37 PM] Conrad Hake: And, Rick is out!
[12:59:40 PM] CFJr: our whole system is a joke
[12:59:44 PM] CFJr: YEAH!! we didn’t swear
[12:59:55 PM] Conrad Hake: Not that I can remember!!!
[1:00:21 PM] CFJr: that was interesting… i think they should integrate this into their show
[1:00:40 PM] Conrad Hake: Hey, CNNers, did any of you watch us? How did we do?
[1:00:43 PM] CFJr: still would’ve been great to have the MJ debate
[1:00:55 PM] CFJr: give them a couple of minutes to come back from the set
[1:01:18 PM] Conrad Hake: Yeah, it has to be really busy for this bunch during showtime.
[1:01:56 PM] Conrad Hake: I’ve already invited Rick to BBQ. Now I need to add you, Angie and Janelle!
[1:05:57 PM] CFJr: LOL right
[1:06:19 PM] CFJr: how many people protested in London today?
[1:06:39 PM] Conrad Hake: Good question. Looked like a BIG turnout.
[1:07:39 PM] CFJr: in am really impressed by Rick’s reporting of the protests
[1:07:57 PM] CFJr: I recall the ones in Seatlle, it wasn’t so fair and balanced
[1:08:21 PM] Conrad Hake: So am I. He isn’t against protest. He instead looks for effective protest.
[1:09:17 PM] Conrad Hake: You know, as we got the stream going, I wonder if the CNN people kind of went WHEW!!
[1:09:33 PM] Conrad Hake: We were both trying to be constructive.
[1:10:00 PM] Conrad Hake: Passionate, but constructive.
[1:10:53 PM] CFJr: agreed
[1:12:44 PM] CFJr: i am glad we have Rick on CNN
